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		<title>By: Atabey</title>
		<link>http://nuestrafrontera.org/wordpress/2009/10/the-porous-border-1987-present/comment-page-1/#comment-306</link>
		<dc:creator>Atabey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:36:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes O&#039;Neil, Puerto Rico does have a greater pop. density than Haiti.  There is one significant difference,however, between Puerto Rico and Haiti: the role of the United States in providing billions of dollars worth of investments, infrastructure development, training opportunities, etc.  The over 100 years of direct US involvement in Puerto Rico has largely, with of course the commitment of Puerto Ricans, had the desired effects of eliminating the large scale poverty, destitution, and other maladies that many Puerto Ricans suffered from at the start of the 20 century.  Also, remember that one of the &quot;solutions&quot; to the overcrowding problem in Puerto Rico was the large scale migration from PR to the US, especially after WW 2.  Another &quot;solution&quot; to PR&#039;s overpopulation problem was a covert program to sterilize poor women in Puerto Rican. According to CWLU,  &quot;
A hitherto &quot;secret&quot; report from an economic policy group empowered by the Governor of Puerto Rico has recently surfaced in the United States. One can see immediately why the report, dated November, 1973, has been kept from the public: it talks openly and directly about alternatives available for reducing the ranks of the Puerto Rican working class.

As the report, entitled &quot;Opportunities for Employment, Education and Training&quot; would have it, Puerto Rico&#039;s key problem is, and has always been, unemployment.Figures from different studies give a general picture of the rate of sterilization of Puerto Rican women over the past four decades.&quot;

&quot;In 1947-48, Paul K. Hatt, in a study of 5,257 ever-married women 15 years old or over, found that 6.6 per cent had been sterilized. A figure more or less equal (6.9 per cent) was put forward in 1948 by Emilio Cofresi from studies of women who were clients of various programs of the Department of Health in Puerto Rico.

In an island-wide survey carried out by Hill, Stycos and Back in 1953-54, the prevalence of female sterilization of ever-married women 20 years old or over was estimated at 16.5 per cent.

In 1965 the Puerto Rican Department of Health carried out an island-wide study on the relationship between cancer of the uterus and female sterilization. Although the Department of Health says no link between cancer and sterilization was substantiated, it did discover that 34% of Puerto Rican women between the ages of 20-49 years were sterilized.

The number of women sterilized in the same age group rose to 35.3% in 1968 according to a study by the Puerto Rican demographer Dr. lose Vasquez Calzada.

The incidence of sterilization in Puerto Rico is the highest in the world. India and Pakistan, for example, which have public sterilization programs, have an estimated sterilization of 5% and 3% respectively.

&quot; Under the heading of &quot;organization and focuses of family planning&quot;, the November report estimates the female population of child-bearing age outside of San Juan to be 485,948. Agreeing with other studies on the astounding figure of 33% for the number of Puerto Rican women of child-bearing age that have already been sterilized, the report goes on to say &quot;in other words, of the 485,948 women of reproductive age living in Puerto Rico, excepting the area of San Juan, 160,363 are sterilized. This leaves a potential clientele of 325,585 women . . .&quot;  

The women of San Juan are to be handled through a &quot;model project&quot; controlled by the School of Public Health of the University of Puerto Rico.

The plan then, involves the entire population of Puerto Rican women of child-bearing age in its scope, and the primary method of birth control? What it has always been in Puerto Rico -sterilization.&quot;  

This brief summation of several avenues of attacking overpopulation in a developing nation offers us a not so wholesome picture of the reality that caused Puerto Rico&#039;s population to stabilize over time, and should give us pause when considering the efforts that might yet help bring Haiti&#039;s population more in line with her capacity to carry herself in future.  Today, for instance, there are more Puerto Rican descendants in the mainland US than in Puerto Rico.  Sadly, I do not envision our nation being as forthcoming in its immigration policy vis-a-vis Haiti, or for that matter with any other nation today or in the future.  I do support all efforts that bring together people willing to engage this serious problem, and believe that much work and effort lies ahead in managing the great tragedy that has befallen Haiti.  

My thanks to you O&#039;Neil for replying to my post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes O&#8217;Neil, Puerto Rico does have a greater pop. density than Haiti.  There is one significant difference,however, between Puerto Rico and Haiti: the role of the United States in providing billions of dollars worth of investments, infrastructure development, training opportunities, etc.  The over 100 years of direct US involvement in Puerto Rico has largely, with of course the commitment of Puerto Ricans, had the desired effects of eliminating the large scale poverty, destitution, and other maladies that many Puerto Ricans suffered from at the start of the 20 century.  Also, remember that one of the &#8220;solutions&#8221; to the overcrowding problem in Puerto Rico was the large scale migration from PR to the US, especially after WW 2.  Another &#8220;solution&#8221; to PR&#8217;s overpopulation problem was a covert program to sterilize poor women in Puerto Rican. According to CWLU,  &#8221;<br />
A hitherto &#8220;secret&#8221; report from an economic policy group empowered by the Governor of Puerto Rico has recently surfaced in the United States. One can see immediately why the report, dated November, 1973, has been kept from the public: it talks openly and directly about alternatives available for reducing the ranks of the Puerto Rican working class.</p>
<p>As the report, entitled &#8220;Opportunities for Employment, Education and Training&#8221; would have it, Puerto Rico&#8217;s key problem is, and has always been, unemployment.Figures from different studies give a general picture of the rate of sterilization of Puerto Rican women over the past four decades.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;In 1947-48, Paul K. Hatt, in a study of 5,257 ever-married women 15 years old or over, found that 6.6 per cent had been sterilized. A figure more or less equal (6.9 per cent) was put forward in 1948 by Emilio Cofresi from studies of women who were clients of various programs of the Department of Health in Puerto Rico.</p>
<p>In an island-wide survey carried out by Hill, Stycos and Back in 1953-54, the prevalence of female sterilization of ever-married women 20 years old or over was estimated at 16.5 per cent.</p>
<p>In 1965 the Puerto Rican Department of Health carried out an island-wide study on the relationship between cancer of the uterus and female sterilization. Although the Department of Health says no link between cancer and sterilization was substantiated, it did discover that 34% of Puerto Rican women between the ages of 20-49 years were sterilized.</p>
<p>The number of women sterilized in the same age group rose to 35.3% in 1968 according to a study by the Puerto Rican demographer Dr. lose Vasquez Calzada.</p>
<p>The incidence of sterilization in Puerto Rico is the highest in the world. India and Pakistan, for example, which have public sterilization programs, have an estimated sterilization of 5% and 3% respectively.</p>
<p>&#8221; Under the heading of &#8220;organization and focuses of family planning&#8221;, the November report estimates the female population of child-bearing age outside of San Juan to be 485,948. Agreeing with other studies on the astounding figure of 33% for the number of Puerto Rican women of child-bearing age that have already been sterilized, the report goes on to say &#8220;in other words, of the 485,948 women of reproductive age living in Puerto Rico, excepting the area of San Juan, 160,363 are sterilized. This leaves a potential clientele of 325,585 women . . .&#8221;  </p>
<p>The women of San Juan are to be handled through a &#8220;model project&#8221; controlled by the School of Public Health of the University of Puerto Rico.</p>
<p>The plan then, involves the entire population of Puerto Rican women of child-bearing age in its scope, and the primary method of birth control? What it has always been in Puerto Rico -sterilization.&#8221;  </p>
<p>This brief summation of several avenues of attacking overpopulation in a developing nation offers us a not so wholesome picture of the reality that caused Puerto Rico&#8217;s population to stabilize over time, and should give us pause when considering the efforts that might yet help bring Haiti&#8217;s population more in line with her capacity to carry herself in future.  Today, for instance, there are more Puerto Rican descendants in the mainland US than in Puerto Rico.  Sadly, I do not envision our nation being as forthcoming in its immigration policy vis-a-vis Haiti, or for that matter with any other nation today or in the future.  I do support all efforts that bring together people willing to engage this serious problem, and believe that much work and effort lies ahead in managing the great tragedy that has befallen Haiti.  </p>
<p>My thanks to you O&#8217;Neil for replying to my post.</p>
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		<title>By: A tiros y pedradas, la violencia en Pedernales y Ansapit. &#171; Nuestra Frontera</title>
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		<dc:creator>A tiros y pedradas, la violencia en Pedernales y Ansapit. &#171; Nuestra Frontera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] que da origen a los intercambios. Algunos sectores continúan haciendo alusión a la máxima del Ex presidente dominicano Joaquín Balaguer quien en 1993, violando el embargo impuesto por la OEA, a.... Empero, la dependencia del lado haitiano permitió que esto se ampliara a tal punto que en la [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] que da origen a los intercambios. Algunos sectores continúan haciendo alusión a la máxima del Ex presidente dominicano Joaquín Balaguer quien en 1993, violando el embargo impuesto por la OEA, a&#8230;. Empero, la dependencia del lado haitiano permitió que esto se ampliara a tal punto que en la [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ONeil</title>
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		<dc:creator>ONeil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do believe that Haiti will escape from its economic mess someday. If Haiti could stabilize itself and attract industrial investments, it could create jobs for its people away from the fragile hillsides. After all, Puerto Rico has a population density that is 50% greater than Haiti&#039;s and still has lush forests. The difference is that they have plenty of jobs in the cities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do believe that Haiti will escape from its economic mess someday. If Haiti could stabilize itself and attract industrial investments, it could create jobs for its people away from the fragile hillsides. After all, Puerto Rico has a population density that is 50% greater than Haiti&#8217;s and still has lush forests. The difference is that they have plenty of jobs in the cities.</p>
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		<title>By: Atabey</title>
		<link>http://nuestrafrontera.org/wordpress/2009/10/the-porous-border-1987-present/comment-page-1/#comment-244</link>
		<dc:creator>Atabey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 14:44:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, your article is very welcomed.  Can you invision a happy outcome between the two nations?  Whilst it appears that the DR has a possibility for sustainability, the same, unfortunately, can not be said of Haiti.  The ecological devastation, the lack of so many basics on the western side of the island appears to argue against sustainability.  Also, there are the historical disputes that appear to challenge any notion of talk towards unification, indeed in the case of DR, a great deal of fear of being overwhelmed by the enormous problems of Haiti.  In sum, from my viewing angle, the Haitian appear to want greater acceptance and living conditions in the DR, while the citizens of DR are against this development.  I hope I&#039;m wrong to think the situation unsustainable and possibly dangerous to both sides in future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, your article is very welcomed.  Can you invision a happy outcome between the two nations?  Whilst it appears that the DR has a possibility for sustainability, the same, unfortunately, can not be said of Haiti.  The ecological devastation, the lack of so many basics on the western side of the island appears to argue against sustainability.  Also, there are the historical disputes that appear to challenge any notion of talk towards unification, indeed in the case of DR, a great deal of fear of being overwhelmed by the enormous problems of Haiti.  In sum, from my viewing angle, the Haitian appear to want greater acceptance and living conditions in the DR, while the citizens of DR are against this development.  I hope I&#8217;m wrong to think the situation unsustainable and possibly dangerous to both sides in future.</p>
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		<title>By: ONeil</title>
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		<dc:creator>ONeil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 14:38:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Emmauel. You are quite right. I left out a lot of important points in the interest of keeping the story more simple. The whole story of how the French took over the entire island only to have Toussaint L&#039;Ouverture  turn against the French and lead the revolution was quite complicated. 

The same is true of the occupation of the island by the Haitians--an occupation still deeply resented by the Dominicans. Few Dominicans recognize the help that Haiti provided to the DR in its efforts to restore its independence after the Spanish recolonization.

Thanks for bringing up these points!
Dan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Emmauel. You are quite right. I left out a lot of important points in the interest of keeping the story more simple. The whole story of how the French took over the entire island only to have Toussaint L&#8217;Ouverture  turn against the French and lead the revolution was quite complicated. </p>
<p>The same is true of the occupation of the island by the Haitians&#8211;an occupation still deeply resented by the Dominicans. Few Dominicans recognize the help that Haiti provided to the DR in its efforts to restore its independence after the Spanish recolonization.</p>
<p>Thanks for bringing up these points!<br />
Dan</p>
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